unitologistenthusiast asked:

Anno has said his work doesn't have the meaning many people think it does but he has also said that in life you have to find your own meanings to big questions. Considering you love to analyse Eva, what do you think about this? Do you think Anno is just saying this to push people to figure stuff out for themselves? Because there are moments of symbolism that clearly have specific meaning to them. I don't think he was just thinking of all this imagery off the top of his head.

Good question. Imagery is often much easier to tie together when working with parallels, but dissecting thematic meaning itself can often be heavily dependent on interpretation. When Hideaki Anno says that his work doesn’t have the same meaning many fans think it does, he’s speaking from the perspective of a creator. Things like visuals align in a much more objectively connected way under his direction, and the characters he writes become fleshed out to where they have a life of their own.

Creating a work as intricate of Evangelion will always open it to various forms of interpretation, so, in a way when he says that many people see it as holding a different kind of meaning, he’s not condemning, but accepting the fact that he’s created something larger than himself. It’s a pure display of both the death of the author and high artistic value, used to elicit varied, complex emotions from the beholder, and Evangelion, having reached that point to the extent in which it can’t be said that it, the entire series, or one instance within it, truly only has one singular meaning.

As for what I attempt to do with this blog in relation to Hideaki’s work and outlook on it, I try to assess what has been presented as logically and objectively as I can, thinking about what the value of the themes could be and weighing them against others in the grand scheme, in an attempt to express a central concept and explain the value in it. I, like many, view Evangelion emotionally, but my emotions are informed more and more by the layers in it that I continue to reveal to myself - and attempt to share on here.

It’s important to abandon the concept of simple wish fulfillment in the series, as it is prominent in the themes that change, though unpleasant must be faced head-on. I accept the realities of each entry, putting aside how they make me feel on an emotional level, happy or sad, and assess what’s relevant to it as art, trying to do it as objectively as I can. At the end of the day, it can only be considered interpretive as opposed to one binding truth, and I wouldn’t have it any other way; that’s the beauty of Evangelion.

I think people appreciate this blog because the analysis feels right to them, whether it makes them feel unhappy or hopeful, and it seems in-line with the tone of the series, rather than pandering to a specific ideal for the story and the characters therein. It’s Evangelion viewed objectively and with an attention to detail, and I continue to find astonishing value in doing so for this blog and my own personal understanding of such a tremendous work of art.

What do you wish for? (Petitfanboy) - A Response and Further Analysis      

petitfanboy:

I would like to speak about an image that is shown in the End of Evangelion. It lasts just a second in screen but I think it’s a very emotional one.

The image is shown after Yui asks Shinji (moments after the formation of the Tree of Life with Eva – 01 and Longinus Spear) what does he wish for….


A Response and Further Analysis…

During Shinji’s wandering sexual impulses and egocentric thoughts, in the scene in The End of Evangelion where Asuka begins to lecture him about how he could never possibly understand him, his gaze begins at her eyes but the perspective begins battling between that and aspects of sexualization:

One of the most important details is the conflict between having Asuka seductively licking her lips at Shinji and simultaneously screaming at him. In this case, though only being a projection, it represents a large part of their clash throughout the series in which Asuka would sexualize herself in hopes of attracting Shinji’s attention, but become furious when she couldn’t get a reaction beyond shyness or confusion.

Asuka: “Idiot. I know all about your little jerk-off fantasies about me. Go ahead and do it like you always do- I’ll even watch you. But, if I can’t have you all to myself, then I don’t want anything from you!”

Shinji: “Then why don’t you try just being nice to me?”

The following moment has all three of the most prominent women in Shinji’s life, Misato, Rei, and Asuka all overlapped, telling him "We are nice to you," appearing as they did in Episode 20 when Shinji had ceased to exist within the entry plug.

In The End of Evangelion, before Yui, the mother, the woman that couldn’t be present in his life, asks what Shinji wishes for, and we have the image overlay of the woman’s covered breasts as Shinji drifts out of his being, the pose with breasts covered and brought together reflects what they’d all shown previously in Episode 20, asking if they’d like to become one with him in their own unique way:

This scene serves as a prelude to Shinji’s egocentric unmaking in The End of Evangelion in a near-perfect mirroring. Aside from the similar pose, with the covered breasts brought together, what is the aspect that binds all of these sequences together? A single drop in a sea of darkness:

Following each scene, both Episode 20’s “Do you want to become one with me” and The End of Evangelion’s “What is it you wish for”, there is a drop of liquid, indicating Shinji releasing his ego entirely and embracing his unbeing. In a reversal, this also occurs whenever he rematerializes, coming back to reality from his Instrumentality-phase, but always inverted, as Shinji rather ascends toward a surface:

Shinji’s return to reality is always represented with a surface of water above him, as he drifts closer toward it, fluctuating between red and blue colors. Below the surface, he is in his own state of unbeing, above, he is in his shared reality.

Episode 20:

The End of Evangelion:



Rather than tying the image of breasts before Shinji’s dissolve to Asuka in particular, I believe it represents all of the most prominent women in Shinji’s life, reflecting comfort rather than sexuality. To contrast the style in images:

Comfort.

Throughout the series, Shinji hopes to find it in all of the women he wishes to confide in, yet never finds a way to. Right to the very end, Neon Genesis revolves around Shinji finding resolution with his mother, accepting that she can’t be with him forever outside of his heart, and finally letting go. Rei had always served as the projection of Yui for both Gendo and Shinji, a precursor to having them let go of all else, and experience the feeling of being with Yui once again, consciously or not.

Asuka is the one that did not represent a mother to him; Misato had tried and couldn’t, and Rei had always been tied to one. By the end, Shinji had sorted these feelings out, and she was brought forward as the one he needed, and vice-versa.

Yui’s importance to Shinji in the line between reality and unbeing is one of the most under-discussed and achingly beautiful elements that Neon Genesis Evangelion’s story is comprised of, and is often overlooked due to its distant, and nearly omnipotent nature. Between Shinji and Gendo, its complexity spirals out into many different forms of need and desire, but they will always come back to the singular point of a desire for and pursuit of acceptance and comfort - as can be said for perhaps all humans.


"Red, red sky. The color red. I hate the color red. Water flowing. Blood… The smell of blood. A woman who never bleeds. Man made from red soil. Man made from man and woman."
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"Red, red sky. The color red. I hate the color red. Water flowing. Blood… The smell of blood. A woman who never bleeds. Man made from red soil. Man made from man and woman."
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"Red, red sky. The color red. I hate the color red. Water flowing. Blood… The smell of blood. A woman who never bleeds. Man made from red soil. Man made from man and woman."

My heart and soul is with you now.

But in all seriousness, thank you guys so much. It really does make me feel less stagnant when I have something to put as much thought into as I do with this blog. I like to believe half of the reason anybody cares about what I have to say is because I have no preset bias or allegiance to any particular part of the series and try to present new things with fresh eyes, even as weary as mine can become.

As I mentioned in the video, I’ll be doing a lot more with that YouTube channel, which you can subscribe to here.

Any videos I’ll be doing on Evangelion I’ll share here to The Evangelion Complex, but anything else will be shared on my personal blog, SweeperStuff (it’s a possibility I may already be following you on it!).

SweeperStuff, my personal blog features blog and reblog posts for stuff like Anime (Kill la Kill, Cowboy Bebop, Ghost in the Shell, Akira, FLCL, a bunch of stuff from Kyoto Animation- seriously, and Evangelion- obviously, etc.) art, photography, Films, and Television Shows (the good ones, at least).

In the pipeline for videos, I have plans to do an AMV salute to Evangelion, covering the entire series up to 3.33, that I’ve been planning for a long time featuring a fittingly great and moving song, a follow up Neon Genesis Evangelion trailer that works in a more ‘theatrical’ fashion. On the non-Evangelion side, I’ve planned to do an AMV salute to Kill la Kill, which I’ll begin editing the very day the series ends- again, featuring a track that will hopefully prove worthy of the series.

Back on the topic of Evangelion, I’m going to be re-watching the entire series soon and taking notes. I don’t often re-watch the episodes in any specific order or at full length, I just go to them when I remember a link or have a hunch about a specific thematic parallel, so this will only be my third official watch-through of the series. I’ll also be re-reading the Manga before moving to Rebuild. Around those times, I’ll probably be uploading frequently.

Also, I want everybody who has submitted Asks and/or Fan Mail, that I’m reading it all and I’m definitely not neglecting it, I’ve just been busy as of late, and too much Evangelion can really weigh on the brain. I’ll try my best to answer all of the great messages in my inbox some time in the near future.

Once more, I just really want to thank you guys, especially those of you who have reached out to me through Fan Mail or Asks and even followed my personal blog; I’ve met a lot of cool people recently because of it and it really does mean a lot to me.

What more can I say? I’m gonna go pour some wine.

<3

I’ve made tons of stupid mistakes and later I’ve regretted them. And I’ve done it over and over again. A cycle of hollow joy and vicious self-hatred. But even so, every time I’ve learned something about myself.

Misato Katsuragi, The End of Evangelion - Words to be considered when pondering the nature and intent of the Rebuild of Evangelion saga.

Very true, I should have better emphasized (or worded) the fact that Asuka definitely didn&#8217;t want to be kissed in her sleep. In that scene, I&#8217;m quite certain she&#8217;s sleep walking, as evidenced by the way that she goes to the washroom for a moment and does nothing but rattle something and flush the toilet. When she hits the ground beside Shinji, she&#8217;s already asleep.
I don&#8217;t mean to imply that she&#8217;s faking this in a ploy to have Shinji kiss him, but it&#8217;s an unconscious process that ends in her sleeping right beside him. In Rebuild, she&#8217;s very much conscious and makes the move to do so. There, they have a candid discussion about why they pilot the Eva, Asuka coming to him because she couldn&#8217;t stand to be on her own.
The result of that is both of them coming to understand each other more than they do for damned-near the entirety of NGE, even if the next day they return to their regular selves, bickering at school- right before the joke about them being a couple from Toji and their great combined &#8220;SHUT UP!&#8221; with even more relevant context (in proximity to what causes their moment of embarrassment before their synchronized denial) here than in NGE.
But back to the NGE version of the bed scene, Shinji does of course stop himself when he has the moral epiphany that what he was about to do was wrong and of non-consent. Of course, on the topic of EoE, the masturbation scene is the epitome of their (in this case, his) stunted frustrations and he ends up masturbating to her in, yet another unconscious state, following up with a regretful, shameful &#8220;I&#8217;m so fucked up&#8221;. He knows full and well that he&#8217;s crossed the line- what follows in the film only pushes him further.
When they do kiss later on, he goes along with it because she pries at his ego, bringing up how he&#8217;s afraid his mom will be watching and he tries to defy it. The failing of this attempt is of Asuka&#8217;s fault as she presents it as more of a dare, feigning disinterest and expecting passion (each time she does this, it&#8217;s shown in her moment of breakdown against Shinji in Episode 22 &#8216;Don&#8217;t Be.&#8221; and it shows both her moment after slamming the dividing door between them and hanging over the bathroom sink.
I hope this clears up my viewpoint a bit rather than making it seem as though she simply accepts his non-consensual actions. My interpretation of &#8220;How disgusting&#8221;, however, remains the same as being a statement for the ego and barriers set up by humanity, and more personally, the two of them. Not the face-value simplicity of &#8220;dude, I can&#8217;t believe you jerked off to me when I was in a coma, gross, not cool&#8221; - [Cue end of one of the greatest cinematic/serialized dramatic achievements in contemporary history].
I appreciate being given the opportunity to further elaborate and discuss my interpretations with the community, so for anybody else who wishes me to explain further on certain points you feel could be better fleshed out, never hesitate to leave a reply or message!

Very true, I should have better emphasized (or worded) the fact that Asuka definitely didn’t want to be kissed in her sleep. In that scene, I’m quite certain she’s sleep walking, as evidenced by the way that she goes to the washroom for a moment and does nothing but rattle something and flush the toilet. When she hits the ground beside Shinji, she’s already asleep.

I don’t mean to imply that she’s faking this in a ploy to have Shinji kiss him, but it’s an unconscious process that ends in her sleeping right beside him. In Rebuild, she’s very much conscious and makes the move to do so. There, they have a candid discussion about why they pilot the Eva, Asuka coming to him because she couldn’t stand to be on her own.

The result of that is both of them coming to understand each other more than they do for damned-near the entirety of NGE, even if the next day they return to their regular selves, bickering at school- right before the joke about them being a couple from Toji and their great combined “SHUT UP!” with even more relevant context (in proximity to what causes their moment of embarrassment before their synchronized denial) here than in NGE.

But back to the NGE version of the bed scene, Shinji does of course stop himself when he has the moral epiphany that what he was about to do was wrong and of non-consent. Of course, on the topic of EoE, the masturbation scene is the epitome of their (in this case, his) stunted frustrations and he ends up masturbating to her in, yet another unconscious state, following up with a regretful, shameful “I’m so fucked up”. He knows full and well that he’s crossed the line- what follows in the film only pushes him further.

When they do kiss later on, he goes along with it because she pries at his ego, bringing up how he’s afraid his mom will be watching and he tries to defy it. The failing of this attempt is of Asuka’s fault as she presents it as more of a dare, feigning disinterest and expecting passion (each time she does this, it’s shown in her moment of breakdown against Shinji in Episode 22 ‘Don’t Be.” and it shows both her moment after slamming the dividing door between them and hanging over the bathroom sink.

I hope this clears up my viewpoint a bit rather than making it seem as though she simply accepts his non-consensual actions. My interpretation of “How disgusting”, however, remains the same as being a statement for the ego and barriers set up by humanity, and more personally, the two of them. Not the face-value simplicity of “dude, I can’t believe you jerked off to me when I was in a coma, gross, not cool” - [Cue end of one of the greatest cinematic/serialized dramatic achievements in contemporary history].

I appreciate being given the opportunity to further elaborate and discuss my interpretations with the community, so for anybody else who wishes me to explain further on certain points you feel could be better fleshed out, never hesitate to leave a reply or message!

From the View of Another: Further Articulating Asuka and Shinji in The End of Evangelion

petitfanboy:

First of all, sorry for my English. I just hope to communicate properly the ideas I want to share with you.

Second, let’s begin :)

When I created my tumblr blog I thought: I won’t write about what other people think/do. Lately, I’ve found myself doing that without thinking more and more so, I…

This marks my first out-source analysis and Reblog for The Evangelion Complex. This covers everything, it’s air-tight and unapologetic about it as it should be. There’s a certain amount of objectivity to it, and wisdom for not taking the series and what it chooses for its final line and scene at face value as so many others so carelessly do as if somehow the end is meant to be a simple scene.

Interpreting an artist’s intent isn’t reading something at face value, it’s about delving into what they’ve been trying to express the whole time. Asuka and Shinji ending up together, in whatever context that may be, is not at all the easy way out. The easy way out, for those who choose not to pay attention, is what the series focuses on not taking for the entire run, right up to Shinji denying Instrumentality where he can exist in unending false complementation with all other souls.Complementation is the nature of falsehood.

Something I don’t personally push for myself is a label like “Asushin” or any of the others because it seems a bit trivial in film/story analysis and provokes argument. There’s a thick layer of analysis required to justify it, and perhaps that’s why so many people can’t stand for it or even reading up on that viewpoint. It’s the opposite of ‘cute’ and doesn’t paint the whole story as ‘romantic’. My job on this blog isn’t to fetishize or fantasize about the series, it’s to apply every part of its themes to my analysis and review under consideration of everything we’ve seen previously. I think this blog post I’ve linked does that quite well, even with the label of ‘Asushin’ involved. It’s heartbreaking, revelatory, complicated, and hard to swallow. It’s Evangelion.